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My takeaway was that the OP could not grasp MVC which caused all the issues with learning the frameworks. Also I'm a firm believer that you can't really learn unless you want to make something. If you're not trying to build a game/website/app that you're excited about then you're not going to go far.


I strongly agree with this point and wrote something about it a while back http://blog.oxplot.com/transient-ideas-and-learning/


fantastic post @oxplot! That chart of time vs motivation is unbelievably true.


excellent post




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