Maybe i could have also expressed more outright disdain for the practices of these companies in my original post. Then again, i think that the comment that you are responding to, despite its tone, has a fair argument.
> If this is "suddenly" for your business, and your business still hasn't figured out how to not collect (and probably sell) user data wholesale, your business deserves to be sued out of existence.
> And all of those cookie banners are illegal under GDPR.
Here's the thing: if there's profit to be made, both large and small corporations alike are going to look for ways to achieve that, many other concerns (e.g. the actual UX or even ethics) remaining with secondary importance in comparison.
It doesn't even matter that some things are illegal sometimes, depending on how likely it is actually to be enforced. I think that this same disposition and attitude will also extend to lobbying and trying to nudge the lawmaking processes in a direction that benefits said companies, to maximize their profits in the future.
I'm not saying that things shouldn't be more like EUs outcome (in this one regard, at least), i'm saying that they won't be like that.
Just look at the pharmaceutical industry in US, the healthcare industry as a whole, or maybe the education industry or even the military industrial complex, all of which have probably seen lots of lobbying and lawmaking that doesn't necessary benefit the general populace.
Furthermore, for some businesses it is simpler to deny access to people who are protected by GDPR, either because of compliance taking more resources then they want to allot, or simply gaining no benefit from serving them content if they cannot use tracking cookies and monetize otherwise free interaction with their content.
So rather than figuring out how to not collect and sell user data, they're struggling to find ways around the laws, so that they can keep doing that in any capacity, or in some places, just ignore the laws altogether thinking that they're too small/big to actually be persecuted.
Oh, absolutely, make no mistake, I am entirely in agreement with the argument that you make, I'm just pointing out that the form is sub-optimal and not really in the spirit of the website it is made on. That said, I sympathize because I feel much the same way at times.
> If this is "suddenly" for your business, and your business still hasn't figured out how to not collect (and probably sell) user data wholesale, your business deserves to be sued out of existence.
> And all of those cookie banners are illegal under GDPR.
Here's the thing: if there's profit to be made, both large and small corporations alike are going to look for ways to achieve that, many other concerns (e.g. the actual UX or even ethics) remaining with secondary importance in comparison.
It doesn't even matter that some things are illegal sometimes, depending on how likely it is actually to be enforced. I think that this same disposition and attitude will also extend to lobbying and trying to nudge the lawmaking processes in a direction that benefits said companies, to maximize their profits in the future.
I'm not saying that things shouldn't be more like EUs outcome (in this one regard, at least), i'm saying that they won't be like that.
Just look at the pharmaceutical industry in US, the healthcare industry as a whole, or maybe the education industry or even the military industrial complex, all of which have probably seen lots of lobbying and lawmaking that doesn't necessary benefit the general populace.
Furthermore, for some businesses it is simpler to deny access to people who are protected by GDPR, either because of compliance taking more resources then they want to allot, or simply gaining no benefit from serving them content if they cannot use tracking cookies and monetize otherwise free interaction with their content.
So rather than figuring out how to not collect and sell user data, they're struggling to find ways around the laws, so that they can keep doing that in any capacity, or in some places, just ignore the laws altogether thinking that they're too small/big to actually be persecuted.