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Catacomb Games: Play the series that pioneered the first-person shooter genre (catacomb.games)
63 points by polm23 on Nov 20, 2020 | hide | past | favorite | 24 comments


This looks only marginally worse than Wolfenstein 3D. Animation is very fluid. In some ways better because enemies are more varied. Where does Wolf 3D popularity come from, then? Was it notorious because some newspaper wrote about it? Was it because you were shooting humans?


Further still, nobody really talks about Hovertank 3D. It's also a 3D shooter which was made by Carmack, Romero, and Hall, but came out in 1991

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovertank_3D


Playable online forever ;)

https://archive.org/details/msdos_Hovertank_1991

"You're first assignment is to rescue a bunch of scientists who have barricaded themselves inside the Langston Research Facility. They were working on a new, clean fuel until some big oil corporations decided to buy Langston out. Now insiders say the corporation is going to nuke them"


Never encountered this one! I saw the name and got it confused with Hover, a Microsoft pack-in game that came with Windows 95:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hover!


Probably because the 2d wolfenstein was quite popular. I played the Apple 2 version and liked it.

I actually didn’t know the 3d one existed till after doom came out.


I'd guess the 'realistic' scenario helped. I know a lot of folks who wouldn't touch a game with a fantasy setting ("it's for children"), but are ok with a game with a setting based in reality. Also, simplification works - maybe the varied enemies make the game too difficult for some players.


I played Catacombs way more than Wolf 3D when I was a kid for these very reasons.


Softdisk plays a pretty pivotal role in pc gaming history. Sure, shareware and forum downloads over Hayes and Volksmodems was a distribution channel, but I also recall the excitement when a new copy of Softdisk showed up. The publishing arm, same name, outlasted the magazine and gave a platform to some amazing games.

Pretty good stuff coming from the tech wastelands of north Louisiana in the 80s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softdisk


Carmack also was a programmer at Softdisk. It is detailed in Masters of Doom. If memory serves me well, at some point, he and other programmers were "unofficially borrowing" the company equipment during the weekends, then bringing it back early on Monday morning. They were caught at the end :-)


What is a first-person shooter? I's a game in which you have a camera viewport onto a world. Your own character is not visible; you are looking from he eye of that character. Moreover, you have some projectile-hurling weapon that throws "into the screen" direction.

The first-person shooter games were tank games like Battlezone (Atari, 1980).

Catacombs probably pioneered the first-person-shooter that takes place in a 2.5D labyrinth with ray-cast textures.

That itself was preceded by third-person-in-2.5-D-maze shooters like Xybots (Atari, 1987) which could almost be first-person with small modifications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xybots

Also by first-person "dungeon crawler" games like Dungeonmaster (1988).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahxsMeZDPgE


Supposedly, this doesn't use "raycasting" like Wolfenstein-3D does, rather another, faster algorithm was used, which does not produce a correct result in every case. The perspective calculations do not appear to be correct either. Looks wonky while turning.


Remember playing this as a kid on my 256 PC. Good memories and I appreciate seeing this open sourced


I somehow completely missed these growing up in the 90s. Maybe they were eclipsed due to the success of Wolfenstein 3D. 12 year old me would have loved this. I still love the aesthetics.


Luckily my father introduced me to the first one as a kid. However, likely also due to being eclipsed by Wolfenstein 3d, I didn't even know there was a sequel.


I recently checked out Catacomb 3D when I stumbled across the name while reading Fabien Sanglard's book on the software architecture of Wolfenstein 3D (which I can recommend wholeheartedly)

That, and Hovertank 3D: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovertank_3D


Fascinating. I remember playing these with a much older cousin when I was very young (maybe around 4-5) but I always thought that these games were a result of the FPS boom, inspired by Doom/Wolfenstein and such, rather than the Pioneers.

(When I was that young, I much preferred Ken's Labyrinth and Blake Stone for whatever reason)


Fun fact: Ken Silverman of Ken's Labyrinth later went on to work on the Build engine used in Duke Nukem 3D and other games.


“Other game assets such as art, maps, music, and sound are not included in the open source release.“

Doom didn’t release the maps when they went open source, but the graphics/music assets here seem like the most interesting part. Are they for sale somewhere?


There's a link at the top leading to gog.com, where you can buy the games.


Thanks. Obvious looking again.

Turns out I have the catacomb 3d game from the Id anthology box I got years ago. I’ll fire that up and see what I think tonight.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/id-anthology


I remember learning about how Wolfenstein worked using ray-tracing and being absolutely mind blown upon discovering that in reality, those games were just 2D top down shooters shown in fake-3D.

It goes to show how creative we can get.


The two Johns are credited for making these games, but, based on the graphics, it would appear Adrian Carmack did the artwork for this series.


"Pioneered" is relative. I was playing 3D Monster Maze [0] in the early 80s, on a ZX81, which had a lightning-fast 3MHz Z80 processor and a whole 1 KB of RAM [1].

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKvd0zPfBE4 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX81


I'd say that's more of a Dungeon Master/Ultima style system, not 2.5D raycasting [0].

I would argue that Midi Maze for Atari ST was more of a pioneer in 1987 [1]. :)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_casting#Ray_casting_in_ear... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hSoy1S43dw




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