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For the anecdote, Nils Torvalds, the father of Linus, is one of the many authors of this text law.

I'm from EU, I had the time to look at the recent amendments about this law, in which they added precisions about the fair use of data, for non-profit and public research.

They also precised that this law and the technical implementations should not go against already in-place freedom of speech rights.

Hopefully, people will be able to easily defend themselves versus the big corporations in case of abusing take-down requests. The recent example of Twitch streamer Lirik being unrightfully suspended on a simple request from UEFA shows there will be an adjustment period for everyone involved. His case was quickly resolved and he was unsuspended in less than 24 hours after the take down request. However, he is one of the most famous streamer from the Twitch platform, he can easily use his social network to acquire visibility. For smaller and not well-known streamers, it may be more difficult to obtain justice...



Note that Nils Torvalds voted against the directive today.

My source is the Finnish tech magazine Mikrobitti [1] which gives a link to the vote results [2, p.38]. I'm sure someone will eventually post a more readable list of who voted what.

[1] https://www.mikrobitti.fi/uutiset/mb/4a70c290-cc01-4789-b0e2...

[2] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2f...


A good source for votes is votewatch.eu (free account registration required) - their site is a bit slow, but it does let you slice and dice the vote totals in all kinds of interesting ways.

For the specific breakdown of the Digital Single Market vote, see http://www.votewatch.eu/en/term8-copyright-in-the-digital-si...


> For smaller and not well-known streamers, it may be more difficult to obtain justice...

Currently, yes, but that is, as far as I understand it, something this directive actually makes better. Article 13(2b) requires "effective and expeditious complaints and redress mechanisms that are available to users in case the cooperation referred to in paragraph 2a leads to unjustified removals of their content. Any complaint filed under such mechanisms shall be processed without undue delay and be subject to human review".

Also, "Member States shall also ensure that users have access to an independent body for the resolution of disputes as well as to a court or another relevant judicial authority to assert the use of an exception or limitation to copyright rules".


Do you have a link to the text of the directive? i found this text from 2016: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

Also , the major issue is not so much with the process of takedown itself, but with the "terror" it inspires which will lead to the end of the "meme culture" upon which internet media rely on. It's not so much about the number of take-downs , but about the number of people that will quit before even trying.


Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think your link is the latest version. It says 2016 because the procedure started in 2016, the linked document itself has been updated with the following amendments : http://www.europarl.europa.eu/plenary/en/report-details.html...

On a side note, there are a lot of information on several EU websites about procedure, steps, people, etc, for example :

- http://www.europarl.europa.eu/oeil-mobile/fiche-procedure/20... (mobile version, I'm on my phone)

- http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2F...

Also, with a timeline : https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/HIS/?uri=CELEX:52...


It is not the latest version. Compare it to today's amendments: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...


Here is a PDF of the amendments adopted today: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...

The most controversial articles 11 and 13 are included in their entirety.


"Hopefully"? How?


What does it mean to a forum websites, where people post news, memes or just share their knowledge about stuff?




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