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Again, how would they do that?

Are they not doing what they should do, which is call for increased regulation? Last I checked, they were not able to create and enact laws.


Have been adding a few too many comments here but I have to add this one.

Most of the people complaining about Anthropic's behavior, while simultaneously avoiding the argument at heart about whether AI regulation is good, remind me of the "we should improve society" meme:

https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/mister-gotcha-...


Shame on a company for sticking to their values, I guess.

The dichotomy between Anthropic and OpenAI's treatment honestly couldn't be more obvious. OpenAI has also asked for increased AI regulation, and they've also released GPT 5.5 Cyber which is claimed to have the same vulnerability-finding abilities as Mythos. OpenAI received no such notices like Anthropic. OpenAI also received a government contract, while Anthropic was banned from DoD use.

Regardless of your thoughts about Dario or his company, this treatment is obviously not based in any rational principle, and pretending it is would be stupid.

It's only a matter of months before the open source models achieve this same capability. What is the US government going to do then? Ban all people in the world from accessing the Chinese models? If you think about these arguments for more than five minutes they really do fall flat.


Their values are garbage. Paternalism, censorship, suppression. These are people who think they are the enlightened ones while we're all dangerous terrorists. They are in fact pulling up the ladder behind them, just like all the other big techs.

It's indeed quite satisfying to watch them be the first ones burned by the heavy hand of government they worshipped so much.


> if it is determined, in light of third-party assessment, to present unacceptable risks.

>Yes. This assessment was made by Amazon, a frequent and serious government contractor which is generally trusted to handle high-security government, intelligence, and military contractor concerns.

Reads as partially disingenuous. Amazon did not conduct some thoroughly vetted, responsible security audit. Someone gave them examples of a 'jailbreak' and they notified the white house rather quickly. This was nary an official process. Calling it one is ignoring the facts of what happened.


That’s not what articles on it say. They say that a team of security researchers at Amazon were able to trivially jailbreak the model and it’s not as guardrailed as claimed. Articles say in particular the model was shown to be usable for identifying security holes that it was supposed to not be able to be used for. That’s why Anthropic has only given access to Mythos to some people but not everyone, right?

Personally I don’t think we should impose guardrails on something so close to speech. But I can imagine Amazon was worried about how an explosion of cybersecurity incidents might affect the world. After all, they run AWS and have good intuition for the landscape of cybersecurity. Imagine if many of their cloud customers are suddenly facing one breach after another.


You:

"We should improve society somewhat" "And yet you participate in society! Curious. I am very intelligent"[1]

[1]https://iea.org.uk/yet-you-participate-in-society-in-defence...


Sure. Keep peddling that was the position of Anthropic. Even though they called for global, coronated regulation, as opposed to the handicapping of them while letting others run free.

https://iea.org.uk/yet-you-participate-in-society-in-defence...


That is literally not at all what this regulation does. This regulation does not pause development. This is designed to make sure non-US citizens cannot do work with/on this model. This is stupid because Anthropic never once said this is what they wanted. They said there should be a global effort undertaken for everyone to take a coordinated approach to slowing down development. They never said "please please make it impossible for Anthropic to develop models while letting everybody else develop what they want"

Oh, is that literally the case? Thanks for literally explaining it to me.

All that data is lost when you migrate accounts though. I went from an old to a new 1P account and did the official way to copy (NOT exporting it to a text file and re-importing that way, actually copying it from the interface) and no version history persisted :/


Yeah but OpenAI isn't building phones. The real winning would be Google's deep integration of Gemini into all of their products.

Also, even when you DO get AI into products, consumers might not like them. The overuse of copilot led to a barrage of Microslop jokes, for example


I would expect Apple to hedge their bet on Gemini and build everything so that the model can be swapped out in the future.


Nope, it got markedly worse since AI. You used to be able to search for string literals, so if you remembered one obtuse phrase from a group chat, you could pull it up instantly. Now this 'intent' search will try to search for what it thinks you want, not what you typed. AFAIK, there is no way to search for literals anymore, thanks to AI.


Yeah it went from bad to worse somehow.


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